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  1. #1
    attila
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    volevano fregarmi: beccati!

    mi sono messo in contatto per un Richmond 6 speed a $2100 invece che a 2800.

    all'inizio sembrava tutto ok ma poi il tipo mi propone subito di usare Escrow (mandi i soldi ad un intermediario e se la merce e' ok si completa la transazione), a me e' parso strano... soitamente si paga e si rischia.. e poi dovrei chiedere io il servizio Escrow...

    mi manda la mail di cui sotto... mi puzzava.. guardo le headers della mail: scriveva da una connessione anonima a pagamento!!! di quelle che ci sono alle Cayman, altri siti inesistenti...

    l'ho mandato a cagare... e chissa' perche' non mi ha piu' risposto.


    STIAMO SEPMRE ATTENTI, PIUTTOSTO CONSULTIAMOCI TRA DI NOI!

    ho inoltrato la mail ad Ebay e mi hanno confermato.


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    Date of verification: 08/19/2005
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  2. #2
    Emi
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    Vabbè tra qualche mese o anno forse tornerò su questo post e capirò cosa c'è scritto.
    Io non so l'inglese!!! ignurant,caplun,drug a!!!!Sapiente vedi mi autopunisco eh eh

  3. #3
    imported_n/a
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    Breve e conciso

  4. #4
    driver721
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    mah,,,il solo fatto che abbia utilizzato un internet point per contattarti, non significa necessariamente che sia disonesto, e questo sistema con l'intermediario mi pare vantaggioso da quello che ho letto, a parte il fatto che ti suggerisce di commettere una frode fiscale, o di esserne complice comunque.......

    personalmente su ebay non ci compro più un caxxo perchè a me un'inculata mi basta...e forse avanza, ho sputato sangue per avere notizie di una merda di ECM, mai saputo niente, i 78 dollari quasi tutti persi, tranne 24 di "rimborso" del loro programma di protezione di merda, due mesi con la macchina ferma, piu altro mese e mezzo perche poi ho trovato Debbie Hamilton con l'arterio galoppante, ma questo non c'entra niente con Ebay................ ...........c'e gente negli stati uniti che ci vive inchiappettando poveri illusi che sperano di avere l'agognato pezzo di ricambio a poco prezzo, e Ebay non fa niente per toglierli di torno, anzi sono sempre pieni di feedback positivi gli stronzi............p er forza.......SE LI FANNO TRA LORO I FEEDBACK DEL CAXXO.........fan culo Ebay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![xx(][xx(][xx(]

  5. #5
    attila
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    mah, io ho piu' di 400 feedback positivi, il 90% dagli states....

    non mi ha contattato da un internet point.. ma da una connessione anonima, di quelle apposta per fere ste frodi!!!

    escrow non e' una frode... dovrebbe servire a proteggere l'acquirente... ma il servizio vero, non sta palla! ma che si credeva?!?!

    tubello, sono prolisso per evitare il prolasso dopo l'inculata! [)][)][)] e scusate l'allitterazione! hahah

  6. #6
    Michele
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    Trovo questa discussione di Attila veramente interessante!
    Aiuta quelli come me, che sono più "sprovveduti", a capire dovo possono nascondersi degli inganni e delle truffe e a meglio comprendere il funzionamento di un'acqisto in rete.
    Hai fatto benissimo a raccontare questo (probabile) tentativo di truffa!
    A nome di molti (ne sono sicuro): GRAZIE!

  7. #7
    attila
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    io e' un po' che bazzico su ebay, internet etc etc.

    devo confessare che questa l'anno fatta bene, ma non capisco come.

    io ho conttattato un venditore e mi ha risposto un altro.

    forse hanno cattrato la password di un venditore accreditato, succede.

    sti qui hanno un sito che vende auto!!! mah

    ho postato la mail su un forum usa... confermano la truffa!


  8. #8
    Mi sa anche a me che il venditore di auto sia involontario complice.... mandagli una mail e vediamo cosa succede!
    Casomai lo beccano il truffatore, visto che negli States ci stanno attenti a ste cose!

    Ogni segnalazione di frode o tentata tale..... è gradita!
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  9. #9
    Mr_hd
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    se chi gli fa il servizio escrow è dalla sua parte, te sei fregato. e siccome la maggior parte delle volte è così... hai fatto bene a mandarlo a FNC

  10. #10
    Klaidi
    Guest
    Quando tu non sa bene amico Attila
    tu chiama Klaidi, me sa tutto e mette tutto ok

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